Snowball is preparing the final paper for submittal. The discussion might be a good way to make the paper better because then you can check if something is really what you think and avoid some mistakes are easy to make. That's why she asked me what I think about "the intrinsic power of pictures" and " how artists use their work to pose questions". This post is my reply to snowball and I'm looking forward to her view. I'm not sure if there’re a number of contradictions in it, maybe it's rubbish only, even if it is, at least it would help snowball to keep away from bullshit. I would like to be such a good friend:)
Many thanks to intellectual Jim for translating the first part of this post:), 掌声鼓励一下:P
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Wen: Could you write something about the intrinsic power of pictures and how artists use their work to pose questions? I’ll also write about this and we can have a discussion.
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Li: My feeling is that there is no need to discuss whether or not pictures have an intrinsic power – all existing things must have a ‘power’ (a single line is enough to evoke the ‘single plume of smoke rising straight above the desert’ [from the classical poem written by Wang Wei]). Power may be strong or weak in terms of its dynamism; warped or straight in terms of its direction; and manifest or hidden in terms of its form. In one sense there is nothing intrinsically to be decried about power, since both great genius and basest idiocy are scarce commodities (and hence our discussion bears no relation to these two); by this I mean the majority of people have neither great natural gifts of power but nor are they by nature entirely powerless. So shouldn’t a discussion of power ultimately concern itself with the production of power (its origins), the transmission of power (its processes), and the manifestations of power (its end point)? This looks at why and how the inner power of a picture is in fact manifested and how it is resolved in the end point of manifestation in a picture or painting.
1.力�的产生(起点):
- The production of power (its origins):
对我而言,这是最具趣味性,最接近真实(画é?¢çš„æ·±å…¥å?¯èƒ½æ‰æ›²è¿™ç§?真实,除é?žé?‡åˆ°æŸ³æš—花明的幸è¿?或有翻云覆雨的能è€?)也是决定画é?¢åŠ›é‡?最é‡?è¦?çš„å› ç´ ã€‚åœ¨è¿™é‡Œï¼Œå¤©ç”Ÿçš„å“?ä½?与本能的好æ?¶æ— 疑是决定起点ä½?ç½®çš„æœ€ä½³é€‰æ‹©ï¼Œå› ä¸ºä»»ä½•çš„åŠ›é‡?都比ä¸?得“自然â€?的力é‡?。好的开始是æˆ?功的一å?Šï¼Œæœ‰æ—¶ç”šè‡³ä»£è¡¨äº†æˆ?功的全部,就åƒ?ä½ å–œçˆ±çš„è?’木ç»?椎,我觉得他的作å“?里é?¢æ›´å¤šæ˜¯æœ¬èƒ½è€Œç»?少“创æ„?â€?,也许他本能地认为被æ?†ç»‘çš„å¥³æ€§æ›´å…·å¼ åŠ›ï¼Œç„¶å?Žå°†ä»–本能的所想å†?以更本能的方å¼?å°½é‡?地呈现,那么åˆ?始的元气直到最终也没有散去,æˆ?就了他独有的作å“?。他是幸è¿?çš„ï¼Œå› ä¸ºä»–é‚£ä¹ˆç†Ÿæ‚‰è‡ªå·±çš„å¥½æ?¶è€Œæ›´å¤šäººå?´å?ªèƒ½åœ¨è¿™ä¸¤ç‚¹é—´è¿·ç¦»çš„æ¸¸èµ°ã€‚游走的结果è¦?么找到,è¦?么迷路,似是而é?žè€…则è¦?éš?ç?€ç”»é?¢çš„进行使其清晰,我想å?Žè€…情况å? 大多数,所以也许更多的较é‡?æ?¥è‡ªäºŽâ€œåŠ›é‡?çš„æ‰¿è½½æˆ–ä¼ è¾¾â€?,但这里也å˜åœ¨ç?€è¿™æ ·ä¸€ç§?相互作用,å?³åŠ›é‡?在最终抵达终点之å‰?,对于终点的远眺左å?³ç?€åŠ›é‡?åœ¨ä¼ è¾¾è¿‡ç¨‹çš„æ‰€æœ‰ç›¸å…³å› ç´ ï¼Œå…¶ä¸åŒ…括很é‡?è¦?的力的表现形å¼?,所以实际上在最åˆ?选择了力é‡?的出击点å?Žï¼Œä¹Ÿå¾€å¾€ä¼´éš?ç?€å¯¹åŠ›é‡?最终ç?€è?½ç‚¹çš„考虑,也就是力é‡?的终点ï¼?ï¼?å¤§æ¦‚éƒ½æ˜¯è¿™æ ·ï¼Œä½ æ?¥æˆ‘往,相辅相æˆ?。
For me this is one of the most interesting things about the power of pictures, and also the closest to reality (the action of depiction will likely distort this reality unless the artist is very lucky or very skilful); it is also the most important determinant of a picture’s power. Here one’s in-born tastes and instinctive likes and dislikes are the best choices for the location of the originating point, since no power can compare with the power of nature. A good start is half the battle; indeed at times success is entirely due to it. For example, with Nobuyoshi Araki who you are so fond of my feeling is that his work relies heavily on instinct and contains very little ‘creativity’. Perhaps he instinctively feels the tensions of the bound female form and then takes this instinctive thought and gives it manifestation in a more instinctive way. The primal energy is sustained right throughout the process allowing the achievement of his unique work. He is lucky because he is very clear about what he likes and dislikes whereas most people tend to just wander about rather aimlessly between these two extremes. The result of these wanderings may be a discovery of what was sought or it may be to get completely lost; aspiring artists who can’t rely on strong instincts must clarify as their picture progresses. This latter case accounts for the situation of the great majority, I feel, so perhaps our efforts would be better spent considering instead the transmission of power, although here there also exists an interdependency – before power finally reaches its end point the movement towards that endpoint determines all the related factors in the transmission process, including importantly the form in which that power is expressed. Hence when choosing how one is going to first invoke power one’s choice is actually also accompanied by considerations of where it will end up, which is the end point of power. Most likely it’s all like this – coming and going, mutually interconnected.
2.力�的承载(过程)
实际上我认为这是最é‡?è¦?çš„ä¸€çŽ¯ï¼Œå› ä¸ºè¿™æ˜¯çœŸæ£æ“?作的过程,尤其在感觉并ä¸?å??分明晰的时候。这力é‡?的承载除了作为画家对于色彩ã€?构图最基本的å“?ä½?之外,是å?¦è¿˜æœ‰ä»€ä¹ˆæ¯”ç”»é?¢è¯è¨€æ›´é‡?è¦?而被人忽略或仅仅å˜åœ¨ä¸Žæ½œæ„?识之ä¸çš„?我在想è€?å?的“曲则直â€?,在想“曲径通幽â€?,这“曲径通幽â€?除了是妙“境â€?是å?¦ä¹Ÿæ˜¯å¦™â€œæ³•â€??我们是å?¦åº”该更直接地利用直觉性的东西?除了红色是最醒目的颜色,曲线是最显著的的跃动之外,是å?¦æ›´ç?€çœ¼äºŽè‡ªèº«çš„直觉,å?ªæ˜¯"万物é?™ä¸å¾—",考虑得越多则离直觉越远?全是问题,但是这些问题是å?¦ä¸?应该出现在对绘画的实际创作之ä¸ï¼Œæœ€å¥½åœ¨åˆ›ä½œä¹‹å¤–å?§ï¼Œå?¦åˆ™ä¸?胜扰攘。
- 力�的呈现(终点)
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Thanks for reading the above, please enjoy the song from Cuijian's new album "show you color"红先生Mr. Red:), I like it since I first heard it months ago and still enjoy Liuyuan's performance.